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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2014 6:25:01 GMT -6
Kyle, for someone who has continually questioned the honesty and integrity of City officials, you seem very sensitive to any ridicule or name calling directed toward you. No, I'm not upset or complaining about it, just laughing at it. Name calling being all an attorney has to fall back on, with all the things that I talk about, is pretty funny. Questioning our City leaders is what I am supposed to do. They work for me. I don't work for them or for you. Do you understand the difference? Being an attorney, don't you know that I have extra rights to question them because they do work for me?
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Post by helencrump on May 22, 2014 7:59:54 GMT -6
If every town in the US was not going through the same problems, I would agree with you. If our town was the only one that was seeing its youth leave for larger cities, with more job opportunities, it would warrant asking why. But, since every small town is facing these same problems, I feel that you constantly complaining and badmouthing the town and it's officials is adding to the problem. Unlike you, I feel the town is looking for answers to a nation wide problem. And all the time spent listening to your outrageous rants takes away from time that could be spent in a productive manner, verses wasted time. This town has very little violent crime, while we live in a world that is FULL of violence. Your rants all over the internet only perpetuates a bad reputation that this town was labeled with 100 years ago, as a mining town. Full of immigrants. I ve got news for you...men in small towns everywhere relieve themselves n corners of buildings. Quit wasting the police's time with those calls. If you see a heroin transaction going on, then...please be a good citizen, and report it. I will assume you've heard the story of crying wolf. Well, I've got tons to do today, i probably won't have time to check in for your post rehashing every one of your issues. Have a good day.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2014 8:17:39 GMT -6
all the time spent listening to your outrageous rants takes away from time that could be spent in a productive manner, verses wasted time. Oh yes, the six minutes maximum each month that they have to listen to me could make all the difference. LOL I do think they also see their time spent listening to the people that they are supposed to be representing is wasted. I ve got news for you...men in small towns everywhere relieve themselves n corners of buildings. Quit wasting the police's time with those calls. I haven't been wasting their time calling on that. Why, since they won't do anything? When the road worker getting paid tax payer funded prevailing wage dollars exposed himself in broad daylight, I didn't call. I saved the video and wrote a letter to a councilman, who seems to think that I should call when I witness it. Maybe you think that people exposing themselves and pissing on our town is acceptable, but I don't. You do realize that heroin is in other communities too don't you?
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Post by job on May 22, 2014 17:47:14 GMT -6
Kyle, for someone who has continually questioned the honesty and integrity of City officials, you seem very sensitive to any ridicule or name calling directed toward you. No, I'm not upset or complaining about it, just laughing at it. Name calling being all an attorney has to fall back on, with all the things that I talk about, is pretty funny. Questioning our City leaders is what I am supposed to do. They work for me. I don't work for them or for you. Do you understand the difference? Being an attorney, don't you know that I have extra rights to question them because they do work for me? You don't "question" City leaders; all you do is attack them. You say that they "work for you." For someone who is nearly always "tardy" paying your taxes, and almost lost your "manse" on Main Street for failure to pay your taxes, it is debatable how they work for you. At minimum, they should "work" for you in a "tardy" fashion. In fact, the City should adopt an ordinance that only people who are up to date in their taxes can address the City during its meetings. I am glad that you laugh at my comments; they will keep coming.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2014 20:22:26 GMT -6
Kyle, for someone who has continually questioned the honesty and integrity of City officials, you seem very sensitive to any ridicule or name calling directed toward you. You don't "question" City leaders; all you do is attack them. Well, which is it, do I question them or not? Do you even know what you are talking about or do you just make it up as you go along? The truth of it is that I did question them, then they started attacking me. If you want to try to say that I am the attacker, maybe you should post some of my attacks that occurred prior to their disrespectful attack as the denied me use of City Park based on the subject matter to be discussed. That was March of 2011. They may allow people to talk about what they want to in a park in London, but not in Streator. Didn't we revolt from that country, greatly in part due to our lack of freedom of speech? Isn't the reason it is the First Amendment to our Constitution is because our founding fathers felt that it was our most important right? I think it is sad how some leaders(term used loosely) just trample those rights and regress our society by hundreds of years. Then there was their attack of a public declaration of illegal without due process when I wasn't and their attack of stopping a business with a restriction that is not justified by our laws. How about their attack of attempting to fine me for not having a permit for a 4' fence that doesn't require one? Do they not read their codes before attacking? How about their Special Thursday 8:00 am Chicken Ban attack? They didn't even want to wait to listen to how the rest of the public may feel about having some laying hens because their attack was so important. When others spoke up about it and the newspaper took interest they backed off and now they seem to want to forget about chickens. Attack seems to be all they know. What's wrong, are you upset that I am just giving them back a little of what they know? With their team of attorneys(one of the best in the county, so you say), are you really expecting people to feel sorry for the poor little ol' City of Streator because one insignificant citizen is talking about what they do and their attack methods? I still say that if they don't like me talking about the way they do things, then they should start doing things differently.
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Post by greekgod on May 22, 2014 20:46:03 GMT -6
Kyle demonstrates, yet again, his "knowledge" of constitutional law. "Why would I have to pay the City's attorneys' fees if it were individuals that you were suggesting that I sue?" You must really have contempt for Streator people and their ability to read and understand. I think I can unravel your latest attempt to twist what I have said in various posts. Up until the last couple of posts, you were talking about the City as an entity trampling upon your constitutional rights. At one point, you implied that, because of the Tort Immunity Act, the City could say anything about you with impunity. Remember Kyle: You said: "Have you heard of Illinois Municipal Tort Immunity Law? It allows our City Council and administration to say whatever they want without any repercussions." Trying to help you out, I pointed out that the Tort Immunity Act does not bar federal law suits. I explained that the prevailing party in a federal civil rights suit can recover his/her/its attorneys' fee. Next, you said that you would not want to sue the City because of concerns about the cost to the City and the tax payers. Ever mindful of your concern for Streator people, I then explained that you could sue individuals rather than the City. In such a case, the prevailing party could recover its legal fees and punitive damages. If you lost, you would have to pay. If you won, the individuals would have to pay. job, Kyle will never sue any City of Streator Official , because you know full well he would lose. Kyle loves to play on how he has been maligned and his "Constitutional Rights" have been trampled upon by the current Mayor and the City Council. Did I mention AQUAPONICS, and Kyles blaming others for NOT INFORMING HIM of how he misunderstood the zoning laws of Steator. He didn't understand zoning laws in Streator, how could I possibly invest in his Aquaponics facility? Not me. No one OWES you do they Kyle. Oh, and as a long time business owner, I checked with all city ordinances before expanding, and yes since you have been whining, I have worked with the City of Streator city manager, and talked to Mayor Langford and thanked them for solving my problem. It's obvious Kyle, you did not do your homework. Call your momma! g
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2014 21:41:31 GMT -6
job, Kyle will never sue any City of Streator Official , because you know full well he would lose. Kyle loves to play on how he has been maligned and his "Constitutional Rights" have been trampled upon by the current Mayor and the City Council. Did I mention AQUAPONICS, and Kyles blaming others for NOT INFORMING HIM of how he misunderstood the zoning laws of Steator. He didn't understand zoning laws in Streator, how could I possibly invest in his Aquaponics facility? Not me. No one OWES you do they Kyle. Oh, and as a long time business owner, I checked with all city ordinances before expanding, and yes since you have been whining, I have worked with the City of Streator city manager, and talked to Mayor Langford and thanked them for solving my problem. It's obvious Kyle, you did not do your homework. Call your momma! g What's the matter greek, you can't figure out who you are talking to? I've stopped asking for the justification for their industrial zoning requirement. I don't need to have our zoning laws explained to me any more, because they've already confirmed that there wasn't a justification for it. They stopped a business with absolutely no justification. They turned away jobs, tax revenue, and a use for a still vacant decaying building. No, I'm not going to sue them. I wouldn't want to feed the attorneys. It really seems to upset people that I'm not taking legal action against our City officials instead of using my free speech rights. However, they could sue me if I were to say anything untrue about them right? However, no legal papers show up. If what I am saying is so wrong, I don't understand our zoning ordinance, you don't like me using my First Amendment rights, and you are so upset that I am not filing legal action, why don't you just file a lawsuit against me. You people that think a law suit is the answer to everything are just ridiculous. So, you haven't attacked me enough, now you want to bring my mother into it? Wow, I guess that really shows how little you have to fall back on as well. Maybe you and job could get together and come up with a bunch of names to call my mother.
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Post by greekgod on May 22, 2014 22:00:16 GMT -6
^^^^^
Poor, poor Kyle.
Wallowing in self-pity, while offering our fair city so much.
Who in this forum is trying to deny you of your First Amendment Rights?
Gosh, Kyle that "call your momma" comment was in jest. You seem to be wrapped a little tight. Lighten up!
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Post by dog on May 22, 2014 22:10:29 GMT -6
I've stopped asking for the justification for their industrial zoning requirement. I don't need to have our zoning laws explained to me any more, because they've already confirmed that there wasn't a justification for it. So what was the outcome of the official review? Was it their ruling that it was most similar to a greenhouse and should be allowed in the CBD as is, as you interpreted it?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 23, 2014 7:36:06 GMT -6
^^^^^ Poor, poor Kyle. Wallowing in self-pity, while offering our fair city so much. Who in this forum is trying to deny you of your First Amendment Rights? Gosh, Kyle that "call your momma" comment was in jest. You seem to be wrapped a little tight. Lighten up! g That is fine with me if you want to think it is self-pity when I list all of the ways that the City has attacked me. Since it was in response to job claiming that I attack them, was that him having pity on our poor City? What's the matter, with their legal team, all that unchecked administrative power, and meetings with the press twice a month, they can't defend themselves so you guys have to stand up for them. With all of your attacks against me, I am supposed to see your bringing my mother into this as being a joke? No, I see it as you as grasping for anything because you don't have any justification for why our City treats people so poorly.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 23, 2014 7:49:09 GMT -6
I've stopped asking for the justification for their industrial zoning requirement. I don't need to have our zoning laws explained to me any more, because they've already confirmed that there wasn't a justification for it. So what was the outcome of the official review? Was it their ruling that it was most similar to a greenhouse and should be allowed in the CBD as is, as you interpreted it? I don't know. I didn't get an official review. I got an informal review from the Mayor with one requirement that they confirmed is not justified by our laws. Then I got a totally different requirement from his subordinate in a formal review. I didn't request an official review, because like the formal and informal review, none of that process is spelled out in our laws and I didn't even know that one existed. Maybe I'll get a third requirement if I ask for an official review. How many different types of reviews do they have? Do I just get to take my pick out of all the different requirements that they give out? Do they purposely not have a process spelled out so that they can just change it as it suits them to keep business out? Wow, I just can't figure out why they are so against having business here. Too bad they won't just explain what they think is so terrible about Aquaponics facilities.
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Post by dog on May 23, 2014 8:14:37 GMT -6
So what was the outcome of the official review? Was it their ruling that it was most similar to a greenhouse and should be allowed in the CBD as is, as you interpreted it? I don't know. I didn't get an official review. I got an informal review from the Mayor with one requirement that they confirmed is not justified by our laws. Then I got a totally different requirement from his subordinate in a formal review. . Ok then. What was the finding in the formal review?
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Post by ~MnM~ on May 23, 2014 22:36:42 GMT -6
Hey CUZ....do ya think that perhaps we should hold another shindig for members...only instead of going to the Broadway, we could all meet up at Carbo's............... I knew that this post was coming, just didn't know when...glad I got to view it.... LOL.............. M From what I have read, Carbo's is in a very dangerous part of town. To coin an expression, I wouldn't have a ghost of a chance in that part of town. LOL........... now ya know that we ALL will protect ya though...me, the big guy, and of course your buddy DD! Right DD......... you're in on this too, ya know! So, when if you're brave enough commin home for another visit? M
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