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Post by dog on Apr 12, 2014 14:06:35 GMT -6
I wouldnt think we would see any more trains passing thru Streator, other than on the line that runs parallel to Livingston Rd. They would probably put a line off the mainline somewhere between Kernan and the east end of Streator and then reconnect to the mainline using that line along Livingston Rd. The train traffic FOR the intermodal would have no reason to go THRU Streator, it would be diverted. Depending on location, I could see them putting some type of overpass/underpass in Route 18. I am actually surprised that most people are questioning the train traffic and ignoring the increase in truck traffic that will occur. Look at all the work they did at the intersection of I-55 and Arsenal Rd, near Joliet to handle the increased truck traffic there. I am all for bringing a facility like that to this area as long as they have a good plan for vehicular traffic control too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 19:29:02 GMT -6
Talking about trains. I would like to also see the Amtrack to start coming through Streator. Trains are a good sopurce of transportation for factories and what not. I think it's also a cheaper way for transporting also. Correct me on that one for the business though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 19:29:45 GMT -6
Talking about trains. I would like to also see the Amtrack to start coming through Streator. Trains are a good sopurce of transportation for factories and what not. I think it's also a cheaper way for transporting also. Correct me on that one for the business though.
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 13, 2014 9:08:05 GMT -6
This is great and something I've been preaching about for years.
Streator needs to use its strengths. There is no major waterway or highway passing right through town, but there are railroad tracks. Use them to build the economy.
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 13, 2014 9:09:44 GMT -6
We already have enough trains going thru. If he wants more trains in this town,then he can get on the phone and call the governor to include funding to build another over or underpass on the south side of town so we can get across those tracks. You practically have to take otter creek to broadway or 1st to one of those bypasses to cross the tracks. The city needs to build another one on the south side of town if there is going to be more train traffic. Rocket, your posts are incredibly ignorant What line of work are you in, rocket?
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Post by rocket on Apr 13, 2014 9:42:19 GMT -6
Would you like to pay for my gas oldtimer? 60% of my gas is wasted sitting parked at these crossings waiting for these trains to pass Causing me to fill up twice a week totaling $160.00. And I only drive 3 miles a day 1.5miles one way to work and back. Doesn't make sense to drive to the north side of town to cross these tracks then to back track to the south side of town to do my personal business. Should only take me 10 minutes to get to work or home. It takes me 20minutes to go to work or home from work .
My point of opposition is the more cost in gas I will have to pay waiting even longer to cross the tracks.
I feel another overpass or underpass is warranted to be built on the south side of town.
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Post by Blue Star on Apr 13, 2014 9:48:01 GMT -6
Rocket, Turn the key ... OFF! It's a "Green thing" going around now anyway, save gas & polution!
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 13, 2014 10:05:44 GMT -6
Would you like to pay for my gas oldtimer? 60% of my gas is wasted sitting parked at these crossings waiting for these trains to pass Causing me to fill up twice a week totaling $160.00. And I only drive 3 miles a day 1.5miles one way to work and back. Doesn't make sense to drive to the north side of town to cross these tracks then to back track to the south side of town to do my personal business. Should only take me 10 minutes to get to work or home. It takes me 20minutes to go to work or home from work . My point of opposition is the more cost in gas I will have to pay waiting even longer to cross the tracks. I feel another overpass or underpass is warranted to be built on the south side of town. It takes you 20 whole minutes to get to work or go home? How do you find time to do anything else when you drive so much?
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Post by ironeagle on Apr 13, 2014 10:13:13 GMT -6
To all the People that are Against this here is something to consider. 1st a Locomotive moves 1 ton of Freight over 400 Miles with 1 Gallon of Fuel according to the EPA. Second with the New Emission Guidelines passed by the EPA just since 2000 for Locomotives and OTR trucks they now produce 99% less Emissions of NOX CO2 and Particulates than a Engine made in 1999. 3rd the Average OTR Terminal located near an Intermodal yard and any Carrier that uses IM would have a Terminal CLOSE to speed up deliveries to their Customers employees around 50 people between the Shop and the Local Drivers in that terminal and those jobs pay on Average 40-50 thousand a Year. Next we would have the Railroad jobs that would be generated at around 60-70K at year per job. The Tax Base would increase hugely as people relocated to the area. Why called the Jobs are LOCAL and the employees would not want to Commute to them.
If the Terminal got built and from what I am hearing BNSF wants to get its IM operations consolidated in an area OUT of the Metro Area except for Willow Springs that is UPS only we could end up being the new place. Why with Very Little Capital Expense going North aka Rebuilding the IL Railnet Line to Ottawa for CSX Interchange and redoing the NS Interchage South of town near Livingston Rd Streator IL would have Direct Rail to Rail Transfer to All Points East and also could be the End point for stuff going to Chicago freeing up a lot of Track time for other trains going in and out of Chicago namely the UPS trains and the Manifest Trains that have to go there for further handling.
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Post by rocket on Apr 13, 2014 10:26:28 GMT -6
How bout the bnsf redo the tracks south of main st southward to Livingston rd and dig down 40ft and relay the tracks Then all would need to be done is put in small bridges over the tracks and the rd would be flat. They have it like this in Paxton il.
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Post by dog on Apr 13, 2014 13:05:40 GMT -6
Would you like to pay for my gas oldtimer? 60% of my gas is wasted sitting parked at these crossings waiting for these trains to pass Causing me to fill up twice a week totaling $160.00. And I only drive 3 miles a day 1.5miles one way to work and back. Doesn't make sense to drive to the north side of town to cross these tracks then to back track to the south side of town to do my personal business. Should only take me 10 minutes to get to work or home. It takes me 20minutes to go to work or home from work . Somehow these numbers just don't add up. At $4 a gallon you are saying that you are using 40 gallons to go 15 miles? That's 2 1/4 GALLONS PER MILE. If that is true, that vehicle would be billowing black smoke out the tailpipe, if it would even run at all. You have bigger problems than wanting an overpass. You need to get that vehicle looked at ASAP.
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Post by rocket on Apr 13, 2014 13:34:20 GMT -6
it only gets 7miles to the gal 9 on the highway. Yes it is a 4x4 they eat gas. Cannot afford to go in debt to buy another vehicle.
However like I said I burned more gas sitting at the crossing then I do anywhere else. 4yrs ago we had less train traffic could cross the tracks anywhere anytime and didn't need to fill up for a week and a half. Now the train traffic has increased getting across the tracks is slim and now filling up twice a week and have a 22gal tank at $4 a gal is $88.00 everytime I fill up which is twice a week now. You burn more gas sitting parked idling then you do driving on the rd.
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Post by no1inparticular on Apr 13, 2014 13:38:15 GMT -6
But another EPA document shows that these "changes" to Locomotives will not be apparent for some time to come...
"Emissions from diesel-powered locomotives, such as NOx, HC, and PM, contribute to air pollution in both urban and rural areas, and have significant health and environmental effects. NOx is a major component of smog and acid rain. NOx emissions combine with HC in the atmosphere to form ground-level ozone, the primary constituent of smog. Ozone is a highly reactive pollutant that damages lung tissue, causes congestion, and reduces vital lung capacity, in addition to damaging vegetation. Acid rain damages buildings and crops, and degrades lakes and streams. NOx also contributes to the formation of secondary PM, which causes headaches, eye and nasal irritation, chest pain, and lung inflammation. Environmental impacts of PM include reduced visibility and deterioration of buildings.
The primary focus of this rulemaking is on reducing NOx and PM emissions, although there are also reductions in HC and CO. NOx emissions from locomotives will be reduced by 60 percent by 2040, compared to 1995 baseline levels.."
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Apr 13, 2014 13:41:20 GMT -6
Would you like to pay for my gas oldtimer? 60% of my gas is wasted sitting parked at these crossings waiting for these trains to pass Causing me to fill up twice a week totaling $160.00. And I only drive 3 miles a day 1.5miles one way to work and back. Doesn't make sense to drive to the north side of town to cross these tracks then to back track to the south side of town to do my personal business. Should only take me 10 minutes to get to work or home. It takes me 20minutes to go to work or home from work . Somehow these numbers just don't add up. At $4 a gallon you are saying that you are using 40 gallons to go 15 miles? That's 2 1/4 GALLONS PER MILE. If that is true, that vehicle would be billowing black smoke out the tailpipe, if it would even run at all. You have bigger problems than wanting an overpass. You need to get that vehicle looked at ASAP. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Rocket there is no way you would use up that much gas just sitting an extra 10 minutes for a train. The BS sure is thick in this forum.
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Apr 13, 2014 13:43:17 GMT -6
it only gets 7miles to the gal 9 on the highway. Yes it is a 4x4 they eat gas. Cannot afford to go in debt to buy another vehicle. However like I said I burned more gas sitting at the crossing then I do anywhere else. 4yrs ago we had less train traffic could cross the tracks anywhere anytime and didn't need to fill up for a week and a half. Now the train traffic has increased getting across the tracks is slim and now filling up twice a week and have a 22gal tank at $4 a gal is $88.00 everytime I fill up which is twice a week now. You burn more gas sitting parked idling then you do driving on the rd. The problem is your vehicle not the trains when it comes to gas. Sell it and buy a used economy car. Don't have to go into debt.
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