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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 5, 2014 8:00:25 GMT -6
Kyle, LOL! Perhaps your paranoia is showing. What you need are a few "video cameras" around the "Forum". g LOL, yes that is pretty funny. You don't really think that it was my paranoia that had me put video cameras on my building to capture what does happen on our streets and keeps businesses like the Majestic from being able to be successful, do you? Isn't it interesting that after I posted videos showing people who are not downtown how the fights are handled by our City, that the newspaper decided to do a story on the excessive bar violence? If our leaders would have been willing to discuss solutions to these problems or at least allow people their First Amendment Rights to discuss the ideas in City Park, I probably wouldn't have even posted those videos. With no solutions to these problems that really do hurt business, I feel that I must keep talking about them to convince more people that we do need new leaders who do have solutions, if I want our downtown to be a place suitable for businesses like a movie palace.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 5, 2014 15:41:08 GMT -6
Wow, we haven't talked about Aquaponics in a while, obviously you are interested in having it be discussed again. I certainly will keep you informed of any Aquaponics news that I see. We know that there won't be any from Streator since our Mayor is so dead set against it. If he weren't, don't you think he would have at least given a requirement that followed our laws, or maybe given a justification? Why turn business away from Streator? Does he just not like business? I thought you wanted to talk Aquaponics. Why do you think Mayor Lansford gave a requirement to stop a business that he does not can not provide a justification for?
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Post by ~MnM~ on Oct 5, 2014 20:38:12 GMT -6
Are you bringing it up for any reason other than another attempt at an attack on me? M&M One of Kyle's usual follow-up responses, "another attempt at an attack on me?" Another being, "I thought your weren't to respond"....blah, blah, blah. Perhaps he should sit down and be a bit introspective as to how he can alienate so many in a public forum with his accusations. Perhaps he should also learn to be a better judge of character before going into business with anyone. Apparently "everyone" is to blame for his failures. Best of luck Kyle in your new venture. Humm, I'll keep checking for a tax sale on your property in Streator. g Yes G, you're so right......and I do also wish him and his whole family well too, I have a feeling that they're really gonna need it! M
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 6, 2014 12:21:06 GMT -6
The only thing I presented as fact was that it was something that someone told me. I explained right from the start that it was something that a friend of a bar owner had told me, not that I knew it to be a fact. Don't you agree though that it is a much better explanation than a Police Chief's claim that there is no law keeping bar owners from serving people who are already intoxicated, or our Mayor's claim that he gets to decide what subjects can be discussed in City Park? Those dumb lawyers would call Kyle's most recent "fact" attack as tertiary heresay, but it is a good way do avoid defamation charges. Yes, more of my weasel words. Tertiary heresay is really only a problem in a courtroom, right? There is no problem with using it on a public forum to discuss possible reasons why the illegal activities that keep many patrons away from a movie palace are allowed to continue, correct? Oh wait, I think someone on this forum said (more heresay) that you couldn't give legal advice here, as a reason why you don't explain what allows our city leaders to deny use of the park based on the subject being discussed. That's fine, I think that I'm probably better off without your legal advice.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 6, 2014 12:23:18 GMT -6
The only reason I asked that question is because of my friends merchandise on consignment being up in that store, and I told her that I would try to find out for her. You wouldn't believe how often I walk by there, and people will literally be driving up and stopping to ask me, if they are open. THAT'S when I also wondered how consignment things were left in a locked store belonging to clients. Then I get crucified here that I was in ATTACK mode, and PO'ed then, yeah ok. Even though G there are signs posted in the storefront windows "FOR SALE / LEASE".........he is still in business, ummmm, ok. Guess I don't understand how one can as was asked, commute back and forth from Illinois and Kentucky to conduct ANY business. Must be a blonde thing on my part then, I guess? M With the way that you stated the question along with a comment suggesting that people are highly PO'ed over it, it did seem like only an attack to me. If you would have stated that it was an inquiry for someone who was actually a consignor and left out the suggestion that people are highly PO'ed, I probably would have taken it differently. Considering that there have been other attacks against me here and that we have not had anyone contact us being upset or even asking for items back, I find it interesting that you, who are clearly very unhappy with my recent talk of what Tim has done, are the only one talking about consignors being PO'ed. There is no FOR SALE sign on my building, the store is for lease. I don't know what is so hard to understand. We are doing other things and when we have time, we come back and open for a few hours. We drove from Kentucky to Illinois took care of some other things and opened the store last Wednesday for several hours, did some business, then drove back to Kentucky to work there Thursday. Not that big of a deal. I'm taking care of some problems at the Roxy (remember, the job that I supposedly lost) and will be at the store tomorrow at 2:30. If your "friend" can not make it in then to talk about any consignment they may have, I'll be sure to post on here when the store will be open next so that hopefully they can get in.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 6, 2014 12:24:12 GMT -6
That's a pretty good one.....let me see....a 'friend' of a bar owner 'said' that brown paper bags were delivered to City Hall. And therefore......what is the connection? I am a little fuzzy. There is a delivery of a brown paper bag and then we jump to no money to pay a Police force to monitor fights......and that caused a Theatre to close? That's pretty fuzzy and I can't connect the dots regardless of how I squint my eyes. I don't think those dots even EXIST. Just another drive by smear at our public officials. I have no idea how you can say such things without better proof. Whatever 'facts' or LEGITIMATE complaints you may have had are really marginalized by saying there are payoffs without any kind of a good source. Take 3 steps back and just examine the things you are saying about people. You are accusing them of taking bribes. You then go even further by saying that is hurting business and causing them to close. When you first started in with your 'corruption campaign', I had a somewhat open mind and was willing to listen a little bit to what you were saying. The more I read your posts, the less legitimacy I see. I just see someone with an axe to grind and will say nearly anything to try to legitimize his wild ideas and try to hurt the people in a position of leadership.(even if it is slander) Dangerous territory, I think you are right on the verge of exercising your own right to speak and right on the edge of spreading untruths that damage other people's character. Come on Kyle, if our leaders are HALF as bad as you allege, the truth will come out and make themselves look bad. If you continue saying a bunch of junk that you can't back up it just reflects really poorly on yourself. It's not cool. I really don't know our leaders and have no allegiances, but your allegations are baseless and I actually feel bad for them having to put up with your character assassination. You really take it over the edge sometimes. It's not right. Perhaps this is a good place to provide more logical thought: I didn't say there were payoffs, it was someone else that made the accusation. Someone who is close to the situation and could very well know. People talk about what others tell them all the time, I don't see how this is much different, other than it is an allegation of illegal activities. The City didn't have a problem denying my due process and saying publicly that I was doing something illegal when it was not the case at all. That was a character assassination as well. If they would have at least acknowledged that we were not illegal, as I asked, I might feel bad about posting the heresay of them doing something illegal. If they started treating people better they probably wouldn't have people like me talking so much about what they do. That seems pretty logical to me.
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Post by roman on Oct 6, 2014 13:22:33 GMT -6
"Tertiary heresay is really only a problem in a courtroom, right?f"
Wrong. The reason why courts have not admitted it as evidence is that it is not only unreliable, but stupid. "Tommy said some other guy said.... I proved my point."
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 7, 2014 7:51:50 GMT -6
"Tertiary heresay is really only a problem in a courtroom, right?f" Wrong. The reason why courts have not admitted it as evidence is that it is not only unreliable, but stupid. "Tommy said some other guy said.... I proved my point." "Willy said that some other guy said that there were beds backstage at the Majestic..." Then he holds a grudge for years thinking that I owe him something for turning his head, only to use it later as a retaliatory attack against me for talking about what does happen here. I can see how that could be unreliable and stupid.
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Post by Lucky1 on Oct 7, 2014 15:13:34 GMT -6
Your comment about Willy shows how you spin things. I did not get that from what Willy posted at all.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Oct 7, 2014 15:29:50 GMT -6
Your comment about Willy shows how you spin things. I did not get that from what Willy posted at all. Nobody but Kyle did! Paranoia at it's finest!
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Post by roman on Oct 7, 2014 17:01:19 GMT -6
"Tertiary heresay is really only a problem in a courtroom, right?f" Wrong. The reason why courts have not admitted it as evidence is that it is not only unreliable, but stupid. "Tommy said some other guy said.... I proved my point." "Willy said that some other guy said that there were beds backstage at the Majestic..." Then he holds a grudge for years thinking that I owe him something for turning his head, only to use it later as a retaliatory attack against me for talking about what does happen here. I can see how that could be unreliable and stupid. Wrong yet again Kyle. Have someone look up for you the meaning of the word "tertiary."
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 7, 2014 17:15:17 GMT -6
"Tertiary heresay is really only a problem in a courtroom, right?f" Wrong. The reason why courts have not admitted it as evidence is that it is not only unreliable, but stupid. "Tommy said some other guy said.... I proved my point." "Willy said that some other guy said that there were beds backstage at the Majestic..." Then he holds a grudge for years thinking that I owe him something for turning his head, only to use it later as a retaliatory attack against me for talking about what does happen here. I can see how that could be unreliable and stupid. Here is something we haven't seen on this board in a while. Majestic still rallying the troops against the city. The problem is all his troops went AWOL months ago. Hey majestic when were tomasello's called illegal residents by the city? I can't remember when you said that happened?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 7, 2014 19:11:31 GMT -6
Your comment about Willy shows how you spin things. I did not get that from what Willy posted at all. Which part do you have a problem with? He obviously thought that I had been doing something wrong and is using it now to retaliate against me for what I talk about. He complained that turning his head didn't get him we he thought it should. I don't think it is much of a spin at all.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 7, 2014 19:11:47 GMT -6
"Willy said that some other guy said that there were beds backstage at the Majestic..." Then he holds a grudge for years thinking that I owe him something for turning his head, only to use it later as a retaliatory attack against me for talking about what does happen here. I can see how that could be unreliable and stupid. Wrong yet again Kyle. Have someone look up for you the meaning of the word "tertiary." I was just following your example the only difference is the name.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 7, 2014 19:12:11 GMT -6
"Willy said that some other guy said that there were beds backstage at the Majestic..." Then he holds a grudge for years thinking that I owe him something for turning his head, only to use it later as a retaliatory attack against me for talking about what does happen here. I can see how that could be unreliable and stupid. Here is something we haven't seen on this board in a while. Majestic still rallying the troops against the city. The problem is all his troops went AWOL months ago. Hey majestic when were tomasello's called illegal residents by the city? I can't remember when you said that happened? Shortly before their store closed. The City declared at a public meeting where no input from citizens was allowed that other than the Tyjax and Thedor buildings that have Special use Permits, all other CBD residents were illegal. Declaring people illegal without allowing them due process, particularly when they are not, is irresponsible governing in my opinion.
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