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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 14:36:16 GMT -6
What do you think? Walk away and let Kyle get away with offending whoever he wants and posting political BS in the General Board or continue to go after him the way he came after me?
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Post by boobear on Sept 5, 2013 17:19:54 GMT -6
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Posts: 23 CRUISE NIGHT & FLIPS. ANOTHER MYSELF ANTIC. Sep 1, 2013 at 10:46am Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top. .Post by Family Man on Sep 1, 2013 at 10:46amSep 1, 2013 at 9:19am myself said: I know that I come across as abrasive and sometimes even rude on here; I have been enduring attacks for years, and feel that is the result.
I have had a lot of good conversations with respectful people on here and they have made me see some things a little differently. I do not just attack anyone because they have a different opinion. However I have and will stand up for my opinion against the direct and passive aggressive attackers.
I know that there are a lot of great people here that know what is right and what is wrong. There may be more that voice their objections to cleaning up the things that I talk about on here, but there are also many, many people that read what is on SO and do not subject themselves to the attacks.
I am confident that not everyone in Streator agrees with the views that outsiders should just shut up and accept Streator the way it is, as is being expressed here. There were plenty of comments of support last night, and on almost a daily basis when I am in public. I believe there are consistently more and more people realizing that we must make changes for our community to improve.
They are seeing that the attitude of not accepting outsiders and their ideas for change is part of the reason that Streator's vacancy rate continues to rise as population and property values decline. Citizens did vote for change in April. Yes, there are a lot of good people here that know what is right and are ready for our City to start taking a different direction.
Yes FM, the City has been fighting back for years, way before I ever started calling them corrupt. If I would have known that they would not support a business owner by enforcing the laws to create environment conducive to other business, I would not have even come here. We really need to change that if we want to have more business and people here is my opinion.
I will try to tone it down some on here though.
Thank You to those that do support change here.
The only way we can co-exist on this forum is if we don't talk, Kyle. Don't engage in conversation with me in any way shape or form. You repeatedly smeared my name on here by posting that I support crime. You can talk about me all you want, the members here have made it perfectly clear I am never to defend myself on here, so I am done with it. If I didn't have to delete my account twice, I would let you read the messages I received. Say what you want about it, you certainly did before and I know you will again someday. I said what I had to say and now it's over. DON'T talk to me. Don't quote me, just leave me alone. You can talk about me, use my name, I don't care, but don't post directly to me. I have nothing to say to a person like you.
Why don't you practice what you preach.
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Post by Lucky1 on Sept 5, 2013 17:37:52 GMT -6
This is probably the dumbest thread ever started. Grow up already.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 17:49:41 GMT -6
This is probably to dumbest thread ever started. Grow up already. So, Kyle can say whatever he wants and drag my name through the mud, but no one can say anything about it? Got your opinion. Thanks. Did you vote?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 17:50:22 GMT -6
Family Man New Member Posts: 23 CRUISE NIGHT & FLIPS. ANOTHER MYSELF ANTIC. Sep 1, 2013 at 10:46am Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top. .Post by Family Man on Sep 1, 2013 at 10:46amSep 1, 2013 at 9:19am myself said: I know that I come across as abrasive and sometimes even rude on here; I have been enduring attacks for years, and feel that is the result. I have had a lot of good conversations with respectful people on here and they have made me see some things a little differently. I do not just attack anyone because they have a different opinion. However I have and will stand up for my opinion against the direct and passive aggressive attackers. I know that there are a lot of great people here that know what is right and what is wrong. There may be more that voice their objections to cleaning up the things that I talk about on here, but there are also many, many people that read what is on SO and do not subject themselves to the attacks. I am confident that not everyone in Streator agrees with the views that outsiders should just shut up and accept Streator the way it is, as is being expressed here. There were plenty of comments of support last night, and on almost a daily basis when I am in public. I believe there are consistently more and more people realizing that we must make changes for our community to improve. They are seeing that the attitude of not accepting outsiders and their ideas for change is part of the reason that Streator's vacancy rate continues to rise as population and property values decline. Citizens did vote for change in April. Yes, there are a lot of good people here that know what is right and are ready for our City to start taking a different direction. Yes FM, the City has been fighting back for years, way before I ever started calling them corrupt. If I would have known that they would not support a business owner by enforcing the laws to create environment conducive to other business, I would not have even come here. We really need to change that if we want to have more business and people here is my opinion. I will try to tone it down some on here though. Thank You to those that do support change here. The only way we can co-exist on this forum is if we don't talk, Kyle. Don't engage in conversation with me in any way shape or form. You repeatedly smeared my name on here by posting that I support crime. You can talk about me all you want, the members here have made it perfectly clear I am never to defend myself on here, so I am done with it. If I didn't have to delete my account twice, I would let you read the messages I received. Say what you want about it, you certainly did before and I know you will again someday. I said what I had to say and now it's over. DON'T talk to me. Don't quote me, just leave me alone. You can talk about me, use my name, I don't care, but don't post directly to me. I have nothing to say to a person like you. Why don't you practice what you preach. Practice what I preach? I asked a simple question. Did you vote?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 18:25:38 GMT -6
This is stupid. Who cares? Sounds to me like a couple of perfect strangers are making fools of themselves while trying to entertain other strangers who don't seem to care what you do. Looks like you forgot the "who gives a rats ass" option on the poll.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 18:41:04 GMT -6
This is stupid. Who cares? Sounds to me like a couple of perfect strangers are making fools of themselves while trying to entertain other strangers who don't seem to care what you do. Looks like you forgot the "who gives a rats ass" option on the poll. Well, if you don't give a rat's a$$, then go look at another thread. You don't have to read it or vote. Thanks.
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Post by evaryman on Sept 5, 2013 19:50:15 GMT -6
I've appreciated you, Family Man, since the ole S.U. days. I recognize that there are times, like all of us encounter, when you become passionate about a subject. I can appreciate having strong opinions, I've struggled with my own for too many years not to understand. All that said, and the fact that you've asked what I think, I'll say; for your own well being, it's past time to let this one go. There are tons of posters that come on here, who have views that are 180 from mine, and if I had the power to convince each one of my particular take on an issue, I'd be flooding the board constantly. We are all different, and we all have differing opinions. Yes, a forum, historically, was the place where differing opinions could be sorted out and discussed, a forum is also a place where the less accepted opinions and points of view may be aired. Thus we often have people who are totally in opposition to one another on one subject, who may on other topics find they share a common view. The older I grow the more I'm convinced of the similarity I share with all humans. I've chosen to attempt, in as far as it's within my ability to do, to be at peace with as many people as I possibly can be. But often just thinking and speaking as I do has gotten me some really nasty p.m.'s, and linked me with the antics of others that I can honestly tell you I had nothing to do with. Once I was accused of being a part of a multi-personalitied (5 user names) whacko. I've only used this name except on a couple of the 'fly by night' forums where it was not available. But, I chose to not dignify most of those accusations with a response. I take me with me whereever I go, in every aspect of life, and cyber life is not excluded. I worry for you, as I do my own son, when he gets too 'caught up with' an issue. You are too valuable to those who love you to allow a message board to steal your peace and joy. I continue to enjoy your posts and to respect the concern you have for our town. Respectfully, Eva Ryman (by the way I'm the 12th yes vote.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 20:17:25 GMT -6
I've appreciated you, Family Man, since the ole S.U. days. I recognize that there are times, like all of us encounter, when you become passionate about a subject. I can appreciate having strong opinions, I've struggled with my own for too many years not to understand. All that said, and the fact that you've asked what I think, I'll say; for your own well being, it's past time to let this one go. There are tons of posters that come on here, who have views that are 180 from mine, and if I had the power to convince each one of my particular take on an issue, I'd be flooding the board constantly. We are all different, and we all have differing opinions. Yes, a forum, historically, was the place where differing opinions could be sorted out and discussed, a forum is also a place where the less accepted opinions and points of view may be aired. Thus we often have people who are totally in opposition to one another on one subject, who may on other topics find they share a common view. The older I grow the more I'm convinced of the similarity I share with all humans. I've chosen to attempt, in as far as it's within my ability to do, to be at peace with as many people as I possibly can be. But often just thinking and speaking as I do has gotten me some really nasty p.m.'s, and linked me with the antics of others that I can honestly tell you I had nothing to do with. Once I was accused of being a part of a multi-personalitied (5 user names) whacko. I've only used this name except on a couple of the 'fly by night' forums where it was not available. But, I chose to not dignify most of those accusations with a response. I take me with me whereever I go, in every aspect of life, and cyber life is not excluded. I worry for you, as I do my own son, when he gets too 'caught up with' an issue. You are too valuable to those who love you to allow a message board to steal your peace and joy. I continue to enjoy your posts and to respect the concern you have for our town. Respectfully, Eva Ryman (by the way I'm the 12th yes vote.) As you do with every one of your posts, Eva, you made me think. I was raised to stand up for what I believe in. Most of the people here have made it clear they would rather hear his crap than to tell him exactly how they feel. They have came at me in force over this thread, yet Kyle can make any thread he chooses. I don't know how the people who he called corrupt and is running their reputation through the mud is staying silent on this. But, to each is own. I'm done defending anyone who he comes after next. You know who you are. Let this be KyleOnline. Someone who talks the talk but refuses to walk the walk and then attack anyone who disagrees with him. Let 'em have it then. Oh well. For what it's worth, it was great reading that post. You're a great person, Eva and always have been. Tell Jess I said Hi. I'm editing this to add, everyone needs to calm down here. I started the poll for $hits and giggles. Kyle pisses me off, but what is said here doesn't affect my day to day life.
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Post by dive61364 on Sept 5, 2013 20:28:22 GMT -6
very well stated evaryman........life is too short to let someone's posts on a public forum ruin your life and health.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Sept 5, 2013 21:48:01 GMT -6
The way I look at it Kyle pretty much discredits himself without any help from us, I have had my rounds with him and do believe came out on top, with just a bit of research I was able to prove his story false, do I give a rats a&& what he thinks of me.....NOT. Everyone here knows you FM and what you stand for, don't let him bring you down to his level, that's what he is looking for! By the way I voted yes also.
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Post by davesez on Sept 6, 2013 5:38:06 GMT -6
My opinion Kyle is a little boy in a man's body.loves to cause trouble and sit back and watch . Everyone knows how childish he is even people who aren't on this board. He is a little toothpick.
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Post by kmjackson67 on Sept 6, 2013 6:41:50 GMT -6
fan the fire and it will keep burning leave it alone and it will burn out. maybe we need to do that and he will give up.
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Sept 6, 2013 7:18:58 GMT -6
Oh seriously. Just ignore Kyle's posts if they bother you that much. You are just stirring the pot here now. This forum is actually the tamest I have ever been on. You should see cafemom. those women would eat you alive over there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 9:00:40 GMT -6
Oh seriously. Just ignore Kyle's posts if they bother you that much. You are just stirring the pot here now. This forum is actually the tamest I have ever been on. You should see cafemom. those women would eat you alive over there. Do you have a link for that forum? I need some entertainment today.
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