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Post by job on Aug 8, 2011 7:03:45 GMT -6
Today at 12:17pm, butterbean wrote: Today at 11:47am, freedom12 wrote:No , Lucifer and the "devil" are two different entities. The meaning of Lucifer, has been changed by the Catholic church to fit their dogma. This is an area you should probably stay away from as a Catholic as most source material on this subject mater is considered non-canonical. It also causes problems for the doctrine and dogma of the church. Not to the everyday, church attending/practicing Catholic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And therein lies the problem. I agree that Catholics think they are the same entity, but being uneducated about the religion you practice is no excuse. Lucifer is mentioned one time in the bible, the 14th chapter of Isiah. Kind of interesting that a Latin word was used before the language even existed, since Isiah was written in Hebrew. The original story in Isiah, was of a fallen Babylonian king who persecuted Israelites and makes no mention of Satan. Isaiah was originally written in Aramaic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2011 8:37:55 GMT -6
Today at 12:17pm, butterbean wrote: Today at 11:47am, freedom12 wrote:No , Lucifer and the "devil" are two different entities. The meaning of Lucifer, has been changed by the Catholic church to fit their dogma. This is an area you should probably stay away from as a Catholic as most source material on this subject mater is considered non-canonical. It also causes problems for the doctrine and dogma of the church. Not to the everyday, church attending/practicing Catholic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And therein lies the problem. I agree that Catholics think they are the same entity, but being uneducated about the religion you practice is no excuse. Lucifer is mentioned one time in the bible, the 14th chapter of Isiah. Kind of interesting that a Latin word was used before the language even existed, since Isiah was written in Hebrew. The original story in Isiah, was of a fallen Babylonian king who persecuted Israelites and makes no mention of Satan. Isaiah was originally written in Aramaic. Are you referring to the Dead Sea Scrolls? I know that most scholars say that the Isaiah material found there was written in what's called Hebrew "square script" with some evidence of ancient Hebraic terms. Other scrolls found there, however, were written in Aramaic and even Greek.
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Post by freedom12 on Aug 8, 2011 9:08:53 GMT -6
Whether Isiah was written in Hebrew or Aramiac doesn't change the point I was making. It wasn't written in Latin, was the point.
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